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Tax Day Rochester NY Tea Party, April 15, 2009 11am



There’s going to be a Tax Day Rochester NY Tea Party!

April 15, 2009 starting at 11am
Genesee Crossroads Park
Downtown Rochester NY



There’s plenty of metered parking on the Andrews St. Bridge that costs 25 cents for 26 minutes, so $2 worth of quarters will get you 2 hours of parking.

There’s a parking garage right next to the park. It’s called the Crossroads Garage. Here’s a link to the google map of Downtown Rochester parking. The Crossroads Garage is #8. If you click on that, you can get directions from where you’re coming from. There’s also other nearby parking listed on the map:

Crossroads Parking Garage and other Downtown Rochester, NY Parking



From Fed-up Americans mobilize: More than 150 tea parties:

A revolution is brewing as American patriots and free-market advocates unite in protest against out-of-control government spending – with a wildfire movement of more than 150 nationwide tea parties.

John M. O’Hara of The Heartland Institute is a member of New American Tea Party, a coalition of citizens and organizations concerned about reckless government spending, is helping coordinate a number of national tea party events.

“Our message is simple: ‘Bailing out’ reckless businesses and individuals is neither the burden of responsible, hard-working American taxpayers nor the role of government,”.

O’Hara said there is no question the United States is facing tough economic times, but he believes many politicians are not proposing serious solutions.

“The Congressional Budget Office and countless economists say that the recent ’stimulus’ packages will likely hinder, not help, our economy,” he said. “Tax cuts, not tax hikes and handouts, are the quickest, most efficient means of getting our economy back on track.”

O’Hara said legislators must listen to citizens who are tired of irresponsible policies so the nation can recover.

“It is time politicians heed the will of the American people and the clear signals coming from the financial sector: stop the excessive spending, cut taxes, and get out of the way. Only then will we unleash the resilient, entrepreneurial spirit of Americans that has made our nation great and which will propel us through this rough patch to more prosperous times ahead.

The New American Tea Party website states, “This isn’t a conservative or liberal thing. This is about government forking over billions of dollars, our money, to businesses that should have failed. This is about taking money from responsible people and handing it over to CEOs who squandered their own.”

Another organization, the Political Exploration and Awareness Committee, or PEACPAC, formed a website known as ReTeaParty and accepts tea party registrations from across the nation. It also provides detailed information on how to organize tea parties and posts photos of the events.

Tax Day Tea Party, a national collaborative grassroots effort organized by Smart Girl Politics, Top Conservatives on Twitter, the DontGo Movement and many other online groups, is also promoting the events.



RV

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98 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Charlie // Mar 19, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    I just listened to the clips. I think HOT DAMN!!! Pretty much sums it up!!

  • 2 rochester_veteran // Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 am

    Yeah Charlie, Lloyd Marcus is a talented guy and a true Patriot. I’m glad we have him on our side! That second video was produced by the TaxDayTeaParty.com folks, who are helping all of our efforts by offering a handy state by state listing of all of the Tea Parties that are being held nationwide. I’m an ACDC fan as well, so I definitely approve of the accompanying music!

  • 3 Concerned Rochester // Mar 24, 2009 at 10:40 am

    I don’t know guys. Do you think this will work? I mean, I remember the 60’s and how the hippies got all this power and demonstrated and such – and then things started to break down. Not saying I don’t understand your desires here… Just saying that all big organizations hit the same issues that our Government has hit. Respectfully: How will you do better against those challenges?

  • 4 rochester_veteran // Mar 24, 2009 at 11:09 am

    Concerned Rochester,

    I hear where you’re coming from, it’s not like the so-called “Silent Majority” are the typed to actively protest. There are times though, when “boots on the ground” are what’s needed to get peoples attention.

    The Tea Party Revolution is a rallying point for those of us who are concerned about the huge growth in government and advance of socialism that the Porkulus Package will bring about.

    The next step is hammering on our representatives, if necessary, protesting in front of their local offices, expressing our displeasure with their decisions.

    The most important thing we can do is voting the bums out of office in 2010!

  • 5 Laura // Mar 25, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    I agree…boots on the ground. Some people aren’t even aware of whats going on and no TV stations but fox are airing any info on the Tea Parties…now, why do you think THAT is?
    I say ANY proactive action right now is a good thing….we aren’t in the 60’s…we’re in 2009 and in the worst shape we could possibly be in! We HAVE to speak up or we’re going to be steam rolled.

  • 6 rj // Mar 27, 2009 at 2:52 am

    give me a break income tax on private citizens is elegal check the 16th amendment if you dont beleive me you guys must be working for the phoney leaders

  • 7 rj // Mar 27, 2009 at 2:53 am

    breath the air they have blown you

  • 8 rj // Mar 27, 2009 at 2:54 am

    you only see what they show you

  • 9 Matt // Mar 27, 2009 at 10:27 am

    To RJ,

    I think you misunderstand the purpose of theses Tea Parties. They are not about people not wanting to pay taxes at all.The purpose of the Tea Parties is to let our elected public servants (employees) know that we do not support taxation with out represenation and that we shouldn’t have to pay excessive taxes due to excessive irresponsible spending by our government.

  • 10 Doug // Mar 27, 2009 at 11:52 am

    Here’s a Tea Party like idea:

    Anti-earth hour vehicle parade thoughts:

    The route needs to be long enough to minimize the possibility of grid lock

    It should go by the Liberty Pole, maybe twice so parade participants can potentially wave and honk at each other as they approach each other.

    It should go by some other significant land mark, such as the Federal Building on State St

    For instance, it could go east on E main by Midtown, and pass Liberty Pole, follow East ave and turn left after the East End Garage, I think you can turn left and get back to Liberty Pole somehow and drive west on E Main where you’ll be seeing your fellow parade goers head toward the Liberty Pole.

    Then there’s two options. If the way toward the Federal building is jammed just keep going past State street if necessary and find your way around back toward the Liberty Pole, otherwise turn right at State and then I think the second left will take you in site of the Federal building and lead back toward the Liberty Pole.

    Perhaps this could become an annual event, Earth hour could be just such a thing. This could make news like a Tea Party! Headline: Conservatives Defy Earth Hour by Liberty Pole!

    No such thing as bad publicity! (I’ve omitted more likely headlines)

  • 11 Mary // Mar 28, 2009 at 6:18 am

    The Tea Party is to take back our FREEDOM! We need to do something before we can’t. I want my daughter to live her life in FREEDOM. This needs to be more than annual next year is too late.

  • 12 rochester_veteran // Mar 28, 2009 at 9:56 am

    Mary,

    You’re absolutely right! I’m getting involved in this effort not only for myself, but for my kids and grandkids! We don’t want this huge expansion of government, nor do we want sociliasm!

    Are you coming to the Tea Party?

  • 13 Chris // Mar 28, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    And I found their tea! OMG! Have you seen this? Take a look at http://www.lefteas.com

  • 14 Amy // Mar 28, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    FREE Tea Party Sign Artwork at:
    http://www.marshbaby.com/teaparty.html

  • 15 Don // Mar 31, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    I regret I will not be able to attend. However, I do want to express my total support for this event. I would hope that this tea party will be about Principles and Values and not Conservatives vs. Liberals or Republicans vs. Democrats. Its not about Party but Principles. Both parties are guilty of the mess we are in.

  • 16 Rock Peters // Apr 1, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    I have written a powerful “Tea Party” letter to Obama, I need and email address to send it to.

    THINK REVOLUTION!

  • 17 rochester_veteran // Apr 1, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    Rock,

    rochester_veteran@rochesterconservative.com

  • 18 Helen // Apr 2, 2009 at 9:54 am

    Let me know how I can help. We need to do something!

  • 19 rochester_veteran // Apr 2, 2009 at 10:12 am

    Helen,

    Thanks for your offer. If you’re interested in helping, click on the link below for more info:

    Planning Meeting for Rochester Tea Party

    If you can’t make the meeting, showing up on April 15 and participating with us at the Tax Day Rochester Tea Party would be a great help as well!

  • 20 beabubba2 // Apr 2, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Seems to me all you people that post all day long either work the night shift, or are closet socialist. :-)

  • 21 FreedomRanger // Apr 3, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Public Service Message from PREMIER Obama……..

    COMRADES!!!…is GREAT DAY in PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF AMERIKA!!!!! We will soon have the Money the People need to make…..Improvements. Thank you for your Cooperation…We will be back soon. COMMISSAR GEITHNER has opened an
    account for your Money. SECRETARY PELOSI will now be Registrar of Voters. We Will be in touch. As you know, we always think only of the PEOPLE!!!!!

    FreedomRanger

  • 22 FreedomRanger // Apr 3, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    EVERYONE, GO TO THE TEA PARTIES…….MAKE A SIGN…….BRING LOTS OF FRIENDS….IT WILL BE FUN….YOU’ll NEVER FORGET IT!!!!! This WILL work, and THEY know it! I hear that some of you out there are finding some resistance from local Politicians about having an Event in your town…..EXPOSE THEM ON THE INTERNET!!! Was anyone out there at the REVOLT in Fullerton, CA Mar. 7th? I was……WOW! If you live in a small Town, and can’t get to one of the Major events…HAVE YOUR OWN! Even if only half a dozen of you show up in a Park somewhere…GREAT! Don’t forget to take LOTS OF DIGITAL PHOTOS and get them out on the INTERNET right away! The LA Times IGNORED the Fullerton
    event (15,000 People). But the thing is, We don’t NEED the MEDIA anymore, We have the Internet and We can tell our OWN stories now! Hell, if outfits like “Acorn” and “MoveOn.org” can do it, SO CAN WE!!!!!!!!!!!…………..

    FreedomRanger

  • 23 Jeanne // Apr 7, 2009 at 10:38 am

    Has any one thought about calling the newspaper or TV stations to get coverage or get the word out about it?

  • 24 Rick Little // Apr 7, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    I will be there. Time for the change we were promised!

  • 25 rochester_veteran // Apr 7, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Jeanne asked:

    Has any one thought about calling the newspaper or TV stations to get coverage or get the word out about it?

    Yes, we sent out press releases to both the broadcast and print media in the Greater Rochester area, but if you happen to know someone in the media, please offer a good word for us! :-)

    Rick Little proclaimed:

    I will be there. Time for the change we were promised!

    Great! Will you be standing for freedom and self-reliance, less government and lower taxes?

    I personally don’t want Obama’s vision of change (socialism).

  • 26 Jim M. // Apr 8, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Hell Yeah! Americans care about Porkulus Chuck Schumer!!

  • 27 rochester_veteran // Apr 8, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    FYI Jim M.,

    We’re doing a march as well and the first stop is the Federal Building. Louise Slaughter’s district office is in the Federal Building and she also signed the Porkulus Package along with Chuckie. Have you ever seen this video of him at his best asshattedness?

    It’s elitist arrogance by elected officials, such as this from Senator Chuck “You Farley” Schumer, that’s fueling the fire of the Tea Party Movement!

    Next up, torches and pitchforks! :-)

  • 28 Spike // Apr 8, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    If anyone can’t make it for whatever reason, please spread the word of the TP to everyone you know. Some examples of how you can help.
    Print out a flyer and tape it to both sides of your rear car windows. I done this and many people have giving me the thumbs up when they pull along side of my car. Also I have made up some business cards with TP info and have been passing them out in restaurants and everywhere I go. Be creative but the main thing is get the info out. If the media won’t we must.
    Hope to see you all on the 15th.
    Spike

  • 29 rochester_veteran // Apr 9, 2009 at 5:26 am

    Thanks Spike in your efforts to get the word out on the Tax Day Rochester Tea Party!

    See you on the 15th!

  • 30 JIm M // Apr 9, 2009 at 7:47 am

    Thanks,
    rochester_veteran

    Iwill be there and many more have expressed interest in this TP here in Rochester. I ‘ve heard from people I didn’t expect to hear from. I think the frustration level is overwhelming most hard working Americans!

  • 31 CA Goodrich sar // Apr 9, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    My ancestors dumped TEA years ago in Boston and for the same reason this party is really just beginning. Heads up politicians and special interest groups the party is coming to an end!

  • 32 Fred Stevens // Apr 10, 2009 at 8:18 am

    Would like info on “Tea Parties” locations in our area- St. Petersburg/Largo/Clearwater, FL

  • 33 rochester_veteran // Apr 10, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Fred,

    Go to the following link and click on the Florida link, you’ll find a Tea Party close to you:

    TaxDayTeaParty.com

  • 34 miriam // Apr 11, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Will be great! But watch for ACORN zombies..they gonna try to sabotage it

  • 35 rochester_veteran // Apr 12, 2009 at 9:52 am

    miriam,

    Yes, we are aware that there could be disruptors trying to sabotage the Tea Party and we have informed the Rochester Police Department of the possibility. We have volunteers who will be helping out with the proceedings and assisting participants and they will also be on the lookout for disruptors.

    Anybody who uses profanity, racist slurs and/or creates havoc or violence will be considered a disruptor and be identified to the Police and escorted from the Tea Party rally.

  • 36 maggie // Apr 12, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    I can’t possibly make that 11:00 time- is there any other time or place as well?

  • 37 rochester_veteran // Apr 12, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    maggie,

    You can join us at Genesee Crossroads Park at 11:27am for the start of the program there. At 12noon, you can join us on Main St., in our march to the County Office Building . We’ll then be marching to City Hall at approximately 1pm.

  • 38 a12iggymom // Apr 12, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    For anyone way on the west side, Albion is also having a Tea Party atarting a 3pm I believe at the Town Hall. Some of us from Brockport will be going! Hope to see you there!

  • 39 a12iggymom // Apr 12, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    City: Albion
    When: April 15, 3:00 p.m. – 6:00 p.m.
    Where: Orleans County Courthouse Square, Main St. at State St.
    Other Info: Let people know to bring their own signs, and tea.

  • 40 Bob O. // Apr 13, 2009 at 11:46 am

    Brilliant. Protest taxes right AFTER a Democrat passed the largest middle-class tax cut in American history. Protest spending AFTER Regan’s quadrupling of the debt and Bush’s doubling of it, and AFTER the economy has fallen apart on a Republican’s watch. Then claim that the Dems deserve ALL the blame!?
    If these protesters are such staunch fiscal conservatives, why have they waited until NOW to protest? For decades I’ve encouraged Republican protests of ALL out-of-control spending, but fiscal conservatives lost control of the Republican party in the 60s. The people protesting now seem to be pure party-line Republicans, who were too cowardly to protest against tax-and-spend Democrats AND Republicans when it actually mattered. What’s the point of taking action now that any chance at effective protest is GONE?
    P.S. The Boston tea party was the beginning of the revolution that gave us our democracy. Didn’t anyone realize that calling this a tea party would come off as being a revolution AGAINST democracy. Again, brilliant.

  • 41 Rick ANdrew // Apr 13, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    For the better part of the past 8 years, the Republican party all but ignored Democrats – giving them little voice and an adminstration set on punishing democrats using Attorney Generals. They rushed us into a war, rubber stamped the highest spending by any administration in history, held no hearings on the curuptions and misuse of billions of dollars spent on Iraq (including funding our soliders taht resulted in the deaths of our soliders), did nothing about the billions of dollars in profits to the no-bid buddies of Bush and Chenney.

    We have a listen to this party tell Americans how safe they have kept us yet never mention that they did not keep us, not on 9/11. They ignored warnings and we all know it. They screwed up a war, our repution around the world and pludged our economy almost to the depths of a depression.

    Normally, We The People would tolerate this method of maddess that goes on in Washington. Expect, now, today— we waste time playing king of the mountain with each.

    I am asking, on behalf many Americans to get work. It is amazing that the Republican party can’t expect the fact that what they did the last time they were in charge is the reason we are in this mess. MOST AMERICANS FEEL THAT WAY.

  • 42 Chad Hummel // Apr 13, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Bob O. :

    So where do you stand on the issue then? Nowhere? Late is better than never right? Besides, you have completely misplaced your entire argument….where has anyone proclaimed allegiance to Bush or the Repubs in this ‘teaparty’ movement?

    In fact, most have stated the opposite…its not party…its principle.

    You are correct, the revolution did give rise to democracy. However, that democracy has been substantially whittled away in the past decade….by both Repubs and Dems. This ‘revolt’ is about getting the democracy back to where it should be.

    Why is that so “brilliant” to you???

    It sounds to me like you are just stirring the pot and are too cowardly to actually join the cause that no one with good sense, unless they are on the gravytrain to socialism, could ignore.

  • 43 Ray // Apr 13, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    I don’t know anything about what takes place at a Tea Party, but I know I need to do something to say I disagree with whats happening to my country. If I and the rest of true patriots don’t get off our duffs we may never have the right to open our mouths publicly again.

  • 44 Ray // Apr 13, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    Making the 11a.m. Tea Party is difficult to attend. Is there going to be a party in Wayne, Co.?

  • 45 rochester_veteran // Apr 13, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    Ray,

    I took a vacation day for this. It you could do the same, it would be well worth it!

    Thanks for posting your thoughts on this!

    Chad,

    You posted what was on my mind!

    RV

  • 46 phantomlord // Apr 13, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Bob O and Rick Andrew,

    The Tea Parties are not about party… they’re about the government bankrupting future generations by excessive, out of control spending. It doesn’t matter if it is a D or R that does the spending, all that matters is that we’re on the precipice of hyperinflation and the economic implosion of the United States as the federal budget approaches GDP and the debt exceeds it.

    This isn’t about blame… this is about fixing things and getting our government to live within its means. This is about letting people have the economic freedom to decide how to spend their money for we cannot be free in any way without economic freedom. This is about politicians not listening to the people and doing what they want to while enriching their friends and themselves at our expense.

    YOU may want to play partisan politics with this, but we don’t. We are standing for a principle and for our Constitution, not a party or politician. If you want to be enslaved to the government and be a tool of your slaver, more power to you… but I don’t.

    When the government created an offshore internment camp, did you feel represented? When they decided to wiretap your phone, did you feel represented? When they increased military spending, did you feel represented? Well, we don’t feel represented either, only we disagree with you on what issues they’re ignoring us on. We are demanding that our representation actually represent us and to do it according to the firm rules established in the Supreme Law of our land, the Constitution.

  • 47 james osterbur // Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    ONE TRILLION DOLLARS
    EQUALS
    50 MILLION WORKERS X $20,000.00 EACH, & EVERY SINGLE ONE. Anyone going to pay? {from http://www.justtalking.info} a US supreme court case
    IN THE PAST YEAR, your employees of government have spent/ began to spend/ promised/ or plan to spend so far: 12 trillion dollars= $240,000.00 per each of 50 million workers OR every 4 workers represents nearly one million dollars in new debt. Created by both the Bush and Obama administrations.
    WE ARE A NATION OF ABOUT 50 MILLION Actual WORKERS. People who make the nation survive.
    Liars say; that you have now paid your federal tax burden for the year, as of April 12. Did you pay $20,000 each, for the new debt, they just created? Did you pay property taxes? Did you pay state taxes? Did you pay sales taxes? Did you pay a long list of “extra taxes”? Did you pay the debts from last year? Did you pay the debts piling up for decades [on January 15,2004: we owed $75.945 trillion dollars as a nation/ do you think this didn’t go up]? Did you pay foreign governments everything you owe? The correct answer is: you have been living on LIES, fantasy, and delusion for decades. CAN’T BELIEVE IT? You believe you lost money don’t you/ let truth decide
    IN January 2004, the federal government accountants claimed $96.257 trillion dollars in assets. Divided by 300 million people “every face/ baby or not” that amount totals $320,856.66 per each citizen in 2004. Did you have your share/ someone claimed it, or the numbers are liars. If someone claimed it/ then they expect your work, and their luxury; think about it.
    Science threatens us, at the National Ignition Facility: going to create fusion (same fire you see on the sun)/ but we cannot put it out/ we cannot contain it/ we cannot stop it: we can only die from it, because it is far more powerful than we are. Not to worry though, they don’t believe a fire once started in a place filled with fuel, will sustain itself? Too proud/ going to create a sun, right here on earth; now that’s power, right! Stop them or die/ too proud to be wrong, then kiss your life goodbye. Think about it/ willing to bet this world, they can’t be wrong THIS IS NOT A GAME.
    Our option/ our only link to power is: bankruptcy, because it requires us all to return to “equals”/ and start over. Our authority, is held within the constitution/ the foundation of all law. Our rights are established as law, BECAUSE EVERYONE is subject to the law/ don’t matter who you are. Our nation, is subject to our control: by the terms of WE THE PEOPLE, as addressed in the first amendment legal right called “redress of grievances”; wherein the employees of OUR government, must account for themselves. THE RIGHT, to defend ourselves/ is necessary. Demand it.

  • 48 Russ // Apr 14, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    We must unite now. Our Constitution is its own context. Foreign constitutions are not to be used to interpret our Constitution. We need aggressive opposition against socialism now. The current Presidential administration is making moves, which will put us in positions for takeover via greater GOV control.

    You will see me there with a sign “Taxed to death by democrats” and “Work Harder, democrats want your money.”

  • 49 Bob O. // Apr 14, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Chad Hummel,
    I stand against irresponsible spending, and have done so for decades. Late is only better than never if the hate spewing fundamentalists and conspiracy kooks aren’t by your side, harming the pursuit of true fiscal conservatism.
    And no one has to “proclaim allegiance” to a certain party. The fact that these protests are being organized NOW, and not six months ago (or back in ‘84 for that matter) is your tacit proclamation. The party-line tools have waited for a Democrat to focus their misplaced ire upon. If you do a straw poll at the event, I’d wager heavily that the majority voted for Bush and probably twice.

  • 50 phantomlord // Apr 14, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    “Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.”

    What Jefferson is saying there, is that people are loathe to stand up to their government… they’ll continue to take the abuse until such time as the abuse becomes so intolerable, they have no choice but to rebel.

    Our national financial problems didn’t start yesterday… they didn’t start last year or last decade… they’ve been growing since before most of us have been alive. But at some point, they become so troublesome, they can’t be ignored anymore. We now have a 13 digit federal deficit with the biggest budget ever seen on the face of the Earth… it was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

    As for “why didn’t you protest Bush?” Maybe you don’t remember, but there was a HUGE backlash in 2006 which forced the Republicans out of Congress because they erred from their fiscally conservative ways. Conservatives spoke up and said “do not vote for TARP” back in September and the House heard us, voting it down before McCain (who is no conservative and certainly never had my support) and Obama went back to Washington to demand that Congress “do something now” to try to garner votes in the election… Fiscal conservatives still lit up the Congressional switchboards and screamed no, but enough people in Congress rolled over and voted for it anyway.

    If you didn’t hear us protesting, it’s because you didn’t want to… and the fact that Congress did it anyway, even though tons of people on the left and right didn’t want it, shows that we once again have taxation without representation.

    YOU can try to play partisan politics with it, being a “party-line tool,” but this isn’t about party… it’s about right or wrong and whether or not we wish to have economic freedom in the future. You can’t have freedom without economic freedom.

  • 51 Andrew S. // Apr 14, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Glenn Beck is a Judas Goat. You fairweather conservatives better get up to speed about what’s really happening. The patriot movement isn’t about waving a GOP flag. Patriotism is not about supporting foreign wars of aggression. We are an Empire and 700+ bases around the world has nothing to do with protecting our freedoms.

    Please join with the real patriots that have been in this for a while now. I used to be a Republican and I would have voted for Bush if I was old enough. But he did his part to destroy our country like the rest of the presidents since JFK.

  • 52 Kip // Apr 15, 2009 at 1:01 am

    Wish I could be there in person to stand with those who feel we are over taxed, those tired of government pork and wasted public money. Its time our country had some Integrity! I am a conservative who will stand with anyone (Rep or Dem) who wants government to represent its people with common sense! I am not a radical right winger. I am happy to pay taxes for infrastructure and reasonable expenses. However, I do not want my money taken from me for wasteful spending. If the government is for the people then why doesn’t it have a budget like its people? And why doesn’t America’s representatives try living like most Americans do and not like elitists?

  • 53 Proud Utahn // Apr 15, 2009 at 1:18 am

    I juts sent a letter to my Representative demanding no taxation without representation! I urge my fellow patriots to do the same.

    Also, Teabaggin’ ftw.

  • 54 Me & You Tom « Dark Side of the Fridge // Apr 15, 2009 at 7:48 am

    [...] 15. Tax Day for most. Tea Party Day for . . . how many?  Unfortunately, many parties, including Rochester’s, are being held around noontime – right smack in the middle of the work [...]

  • 55 JD // Apr 15, 2009 at 8:08 am

    It was posted above that “The purpose of the Tea Parties is to let our elected public servants (employees) know that we do not support taxation with out represenation”.

    Just a point – we DO have representation. They are called Congress. We may not agree with what they do but we are not being taxes without representation. If we don’t like what they are doing, we vote the bums out next time around. But to say it’s taxation without representation would not be accurate (unless you live in DC I suppose).

    What I find interesting is that there was no popular uprising like this back when parts of the Patriot Act usurped the Constitution and our laws and warrantless spying became standard operating procedure. This would lead me to conclude that people only get concerned about government stepping on rights when it hits us in the pocketbook. But there was none of this organized protesting when this slippery slope stuff started back last fall with our money being used for TARP either. Hmm. I hear that these are non-partisan protests but being that it’s only happening now and I seen a whole lot of anti-Obama signs at these rallies (Fox News video footage), I can’t help but believe that it’s largely a conservative movement protesting Obama in guise of being non-partisan.

    The fact that FreedomWorks is a driving force behind this shows that, unfortunately, this “grassroots” movement has corporate and lobbying powers involved who are looking out for their own interests. It well and good that the right wants to get up to speed with the left with regards to grassroots protesting but be aware that all is not as pure as we’d like to think it is and that we are being used by the wealthy, conservative power brokers in this country.

  • 56 sally d. // Apr 15, 2009 at 8:22 am

    Reading all of your comments makes me think of the Mad Hatter’s Tea Party in Alice in Wonderland.

    In case you haven’t heard, the RNC has officially endorsed the “Tea Parties” being held across the country today. FoxNews– a GOP mouthpiece– is openly supporting and promoting them. This is nothing more than a lot of McCain voters having an angry, bitter party because the GOP lost control of the government, fair and square. Stop pretending you have a point other than anger because your party is going down in flames and there is nothing you can do about it now, it’s too late.

    As for you speaking for the “silent majority,” um, do you read newspapers?

  • 57 Sylvie M. // Apr 15, 2009 at 8:34 am

    Um, Sally, you do actually still read newspapers? Wow! And that’s your main source for information? I guess that explains your narrowminded (and wrong) assessment of people wanting to participate in the tea parties today.

    I’m neither repub nor democrat, not conservative or liberal and I am totally for these protests. My hubby makes a very good living after busting his hump for 32 years to get to where he is. We pay 47% of our income to taxes and now the government wants more.

    So I’m not angry or bitter about anything. Just want to protest what I think is wrong. Stop pretending you know what you’re talking about.

  • 58 rochester_veteran // Apr 15, 2009 at 8:59 am

    The Tax Day Rochester NY Tea Party was organized by regular folks and we didn’t receive any help from the GOP, DNC, Fox News (except for reporting) or any other political entity.

    Most of us participating are taking a vacation day to attend as we’re working people. The outpouring of support for speakers, event volunteers, singers and resource providers was absolutely amazing! Thank you all, Erik and I are truly grateful for all of your help!

    The unanimous consensus amongst the organizers was that we didn’t want politicians speaking at the Rochester Tea Party, so the people who’ll be addressing the rallies today are regular folks who are concerned about the direction our Nation is headed.

    RV

  • 59 John in Little Elm // Apr 15, 2009 at 9:17 am

    What an awesome idea and I support all of those who oppose what our president and what he is doing to this great country. We all cannot win people! There has to be losers in this world to be able to judge the winners! Some people have to finish last and get nothing for it because this is what makes them want to do better! I stand united with those who do not want to simply be sheep!

  • 60 NINO WANTS A STOGIE // Apr 15, 2009 at 10:06 am

    REPENT.UNITE.RESIST.

  • 61 Tim Farrell // Apr 15, 2009 at 10:38 am

    Guys, the day has arrived. I’m unable to attend but my heart and soul is with each and every one of you patriots down at Genesee Crossroads.

    This is the beginning of something very profound.

  • 62 Bob O. // Apr 15, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    phantomlord -
    Republicans erred from their fiscally conservative ways in 2006? Hah! For me, Reagan turning his back on Goldwater conservatives and quadrupling the debt was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Either your threshold of irresponsible spending is much much higher than mine, or you don’t understand what fiscal conservativism is (or was).
    Now it is absolutely true that Obama will add to the problem, and should be scrutinized. But also understand that, even if he wasn’t adding to the debt, well over a trillion in interest on existing debt will still be accrued.
    We’re in a major recession/depression. The time to fix the debt was when the economy was good and when the gov had a surplus! Bush could have been a hero to my fellow fiscal conservatives if he had kept the budget surpluses coming and paid down the debt, but he did the opposite.
    You can scream to have Obama overthrown if you want, but in this economy, any president would be powerless to fix the debt without raising taxes. So forgive me for thinking that these protests are too little too late.
    When you’re done pretending it’s 1773 (while ignoring 1980-2008), maybe we can all work on voting based on fiscal issues instead of the hot-button social issues that politicians have successfully used to bait and switch us on taxes and spending, huh?

  • 63 Renee D. // Apr 15, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    I wasn’t able to attend but having the tea party was a great idea. We have to take our country back. I hope there are alot of news coverage.

  • 64 phantomlord // Apr 15, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Bob O,

    Republicans have been screwing up… both sides have. You tried to paint us as only accusing Obama of being the problem, I was simply stating that BOTH sides are fiscally irresponsible, mentioning the Republicans the last time they controlled Washington too. I can give a thorough accounting going back decades if you want, but it’s rather unproductive to keep blaming the past since we can’t change it… what we can change, is the future.

    Obama and the Democrats are operating under the idea of Keynesian Economics (and so were the irresponsible Republicans, but again, they were voted out of office for straying from their principles)… Keynes said that during depressions, you have to deficit spend to stimulate the economy. The other half of that equation, the half that government loves to forget, is that during the good times, you have to generate a surplus to pay off the debt generated while trying to stimulate the economy. That’s a big part of why we’re sinking further and further into debt. We have actually reduced federal debt in DECADES (no, Clinton and his Republican Congress didn’t have an actual surplus, it was Enron style accounting that made it look like one… the actual debt kept growing)

    The economy needs to fix itself… Keynesian Economics failed in the 1930s… The market crashed in 1929 and the depression peaked in 1937 after the government had already spent close to a decade throwing money at the problem.

    What we need to do… is cut government spending. If we don’t every year, government is going to have to take a little more until we reach a time when there’s nothing left to take.

    BTW… the tea party was 99% about economic policy. For my part, I’ve fought to keep the social wedge issues out of it locally, precisely so that we can have a real dialog about what we need to do to fix the economy with as many people as possible, without getting distracted by the things that divide us. The government LOVES when we’re too busy fighting with each other because it means they can do whatever they want.

  • 65 Concerned Citizen // Apr 15, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    I think many of you missed the point of the Tea Parties!!!!

    IT IS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE IRS IS AN ILLEGAL ORGANIZATION AND THE FACT THAT THE INCOME TAX ITSELF IS ILLEGAL UNDER THE CONSTITUTION!!

    Do some damn research you fools!

  • 66 Bob // Apr 15, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

  • 67 Bob // Apr 15, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    Watch the above video and check out this site:

    http://www.showmethelaw.org/

    Research people research!!!

  • 68 Jim M. // Apr 15, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    re: Sally D

    I believe you must be getting most of your information from MSNBC liberal talkcast. You know the likes of Keith “ItsAllOverMAn” who has now focused all his attention to FOX News Channel because he doesn’t have President Bush to bash. Their ratings are in the ABYSS and they can’t get over themselves, believing they’re so intellectual such as yourself. Have a nice dream, the OBAMA Dream!!

  • 69 Bob // Apr 15, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    It’s not about republican vs. Democrat!!!

    Anyone who gets their info from the media has some waking up to do. This movent started loong before the republicans started beating the drum.

    I agree with Bob, people REALLY need to do some research on the federal reserve system. Try picking up a book on jekyll island and the start of the federal reserve. We’ve been getting robbed since 1913!

    The income tax IS ILLEGAL and is against our constitution. The Supreme court even ruled against it. Research my comments, if you have some ignorant response, at least be educated. But know that what I just stated is nothing more than fact, not a matter of opinion.

  • 70 Sammy // Apr 15, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    yup, Here’s a vid on jekyll island….

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6507136891691870450

  • 71 Bob O. // Apr 15, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    phantomlord –
    First, the national debt is a maxed-out credit card, and the budget is monthly expenses vs. income. There was a budget surplus in the late ’90s that was used to pay some of the debt, but the debt was already gigantic and interest payments caused the debt to continue to rise, but at a slower rate.
    Second, what finally got us out of the depression was WWII. So even if we agree that New Deal spending didn’t work (though job creation was positive), it was still government spending (on the military) that pulled us out of it for good. Keynesian economics didn’t work as expected, but no other method is as proven for dealing with recessions. A good chunk of Reagan’s debt was from his spending to correct the recession of 1982, but he never paid down the debt later.
    I’m certainly not suggesting that we “keep blaming the past,” nor am I suggesting that we follow past actions to the letter. I’m pointing to the past because history is being ignored by anyone protesting ALL spending and taxes during a time of depression. We need smarter spending to recover, and THEN we can legitimately protest for cuts.
    Amongst fiscal conservatives like myself, debate (what you may see as infighting) is very important right now. If ever there was a chance to take the Republican party away from fundamentalists and back to our fiscal conservative roots, that time is now. The greater debate is whether or not to just abandon what the Republican party has become and push for the Libertarian party to rise up and replace it, marginalizing the fundamentalist influence. This is a revolution that IS legitimately being fought right now.

  • 72 phantomlord // Apr 15, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    There was NO BUDGET SURPLUS… it was an accounting trick. National debt continued to increase. I have to include interest payments in my budget and so should the federal government.

    and yes, I agree, WWII is what got us out of the depression… but lets not forget, we weren’t selling to just our government, we were selling to the governments of our allies as well under the Lend-Lease Program… and yet there was still a slight depression until about the end of the war. We finally came out of it as Europe rebuilt itself, buying American goods to do it, since we were the only country that didn’t have its factories blown to smithereens..

    OUR government can’t stimulate the economy… I can’t move money from my right pocket into my left pocket and proclaim myself twice as rich. The only way to stimulate our economy is to get people to buy American again… people in the US and people around the world. Our government isn’t doing that, in fact, they’re shipping TARP money overseas to fix other countries’ economies.

    And I fully agree… I’m a registered Republican, mostly for town political reasons (ie, the R always wins here, so the primaries are the real election)… but I’d love to either get my party back or for the GOP to die, much like the Whigs did before it, establishing a new coin, rather than simply the other side of the current coin.

  • 73 kevin // Apr 15, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    This is a pretty cool movie if you got 2 hours to sit at your PC.

    “The Obama Deception”

  • 74 Sammy // Apr 15, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    Forget the link? lol

    lemme help:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

  • 75 Crazy Fankie // Apr 15, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    Here’s a good link for republicans that havent caught on yet:

    http://www.infowars.com/a-message-to-the-revolution-the-easiest-way-to-destroy-a-movement-is-to-become-it/

  • 76 Gooftroop // Apr 15, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    I hate to rain on your guys parade, but I really think you are wasting your time. Most people here want to debate the political bull S@!t and not read a darn thing.

    You put too much faith into people.

  • 77 Captain America // Apr 15, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Ladies and Gentlemen, I understand the frustration, but please, I implore you, do not focus on parties. Parties only divide us. Constitutionally, together we stand, divided we fall! Let’s focus on the problem and call to action a solution. WE, THE PEOPLE, not THEM, WE, THE GOVERNMENT, have the right. The Government blinds us everyday, because we give up that FREEDOM with a false promise! We the Government will take care of you, have no worries!!!!! Lies, lies, lies, and more lies! Our founding fathers put together in ink our foundation of FREEDOM. The Constitution of the United States / The Bill of Rights
    The Declaration of Independence
    The Gettysburg Address
    “The Ten Commandments have had a significant impact on the development of secular legal codes of the Western World…Religion has been closely identified with our history and goverment.”
    —Chief Justice William Rehnquist
    The Ten Commandments
    The 8th Commandment:
    Thou shalt not steal.
    And Uncle Sam is rippin’ you off…
    My friends, stand with Captain America and learn and teach these important documents. Then use this knowledge and crush anyone (Government) that oppresses you from your freedom with the power of the mighty pen and tongue. If they (Government) won’t listen then let’s take them out with our mighty vote. This is America and we will lose her if we don’t take action.

  • 78 Captain America // Apr 15, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    The Constitution of the United States:
    http://www.constitution.org/constit_.htm

  • 79 Captain America // Apr 15, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    The Bill of Rights:
    http://www.constitution.org/billofr_.htm

  • 80 Captain America // Apr 15, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    The Declaration of Independence:
    http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm

  • 81 Captain America // Apr 15, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    The Gettysburg Address:
    http://www.ushistory.org/documents/gettysburg.htm
    The Ten Commandments:
    http://godstenlaws.com/ten-commandments/index.html

  • 82 LIVE FREE OR DIE // Apr 15, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Amen Brother.. Preach it!!!

  • 83 LIVE FREE OR DIE // Apr 15, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    http://www.campaignforliberty.com

  • 84 Matt V. // Apr 15, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Where can I get one of those t-shirts I saw on the news.

  • 85 Matt V. // Apr 15, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    In reading the entries above….If the income tax is illegal, how would the government survive without it?? Or how did it survive without it before the income tax? Is it feasible to go back to that state of things or do nuclear subs just cost too much?

  • 86 Matt V. // Apr 15, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    To clarify…How did this country get so screwed up?????????

  • 87 phantomlord // Apr 15, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    When we forgot that the federal government’s power is far too broad and too easy to abuse, when people learned that they could vote themselves money from the public treasury (often with a bribe to some elected official), when we forgot that it is a government that is beholden to the people, not a people beholden to the government.

    Today, lots of people were mis-educated (by government employees with a vested interest in bigger government, no less) and simply don’t know any better.

  • 88 KATEB // Apr 16, 2009 at 11:32 am

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    ONLINE PETITION AND SIGN IT!!!!!
    HELP STOP THE BLEEDING OF OUR
    ECONOMY. VOTE YES TO CRAM
    DOWN YOU GREEDY SENATORS……

  • 89 KATEB // Apr 16, 2009 at 11:35 am

    GOOGLE ON PETITION S61 AND SIGN
    FOR CRAM DOWN!!!!! TO HELP
    FAMILIES STAY IN THEIR HOMES
    WITH A REASONABLE HOUSE PAYMENT……

  • 90 Mary // Apr 18, 2009 at 7:18 am

    What are we going to do next we can’t stop.

  • 91 mel lippman // Sep 5, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Hi
    Send info ref Sept 12 tea Party.

    Where? What time?
    Give website address.
    I am in Buffalo.

    Thanks
    mel lippman

  • 92 mel lippman // Sep 5, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    s3end t party details for sept 12.

  • 93 rochester_veteran // Sep 5, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    Mel,

    Email Erik at vroom@rochester.rr.com

  • 94 paul // Oct 5, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkj3gA-Ke58

  • 95 paul // Oct 5, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    A huge new discovery was revealed to tea parties concerning 9/12 being a clear biblical prophecy that may take your breath away anf you had best sit down when you see this news.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkj3gA-Ke58

  • 96 enemy of freedom // Apr 15, 2010 at 11:38 am

    NINE MYTHS ABOUT SOCIALISM IN THE U.S.

    http://current.com/news/92376672_nine-myths-about-socialism-in-the-us.htm

    Glenn Beck and other far right multi-millionaires are claiming that the US is hot on the path toward socialism. Part of their claim is that the US is much more generous and supportive of our working and poor people than other countries. People may wish it was so, but it is not.

    As Sen. Patrick Moynihan used to say “Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But everyone is not entitled to their own facts.”

    The fact is that the US is not really all that generous to our working and poor people compared to other countries.

    Consider the US in comparison to the rest of the 30 countries that join the US in making up the OECD – the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. These 30 countries include Canada and most comparable European countries, but also include some struggling countries like Czech Republic, Greece, Hungary, Korea, Mexico, Poland, Slovak Republic and Turkey.

    When you look at how the US compares to these 30 countries, the hot air myths about the US government going all out toward socialism sort of disappear into thin air. Here are some examples of myths that do not hold up.

    Myth No. 1: The US Government Is Involved in Class Warfare, Attacking the Rich to Lift Up the Poor.

    There is a class war going on all right. But it is the rich against the rest of us and the rich are winning. The gap between the rich and everyone else is wider in the US than any of the 30 other countries surveyed. In fact, the top 10 percent in the US have a higher annual income than any other country. And the poorest 10 percent in the US are below the average of the other OECD countries. The rich in the US have been rapidly leaving the middle class and poor behind since the 1980s.

    Myth No. 2: The US Already Has the Greatest Health Care System in the World.

    Infant mortality in the US is fourth worst among OECD countries – better only than Mexico, Turkey and the Slovak Republic.

    Myth No. 3: There Is Less Poverty in the US Than Anywhere.

    Child poverty in the US, at over 20 percent or one out of every five kids, is double the average of the 30 OECD countries.

    Myth No. 4: The US Is Generous in Its Treatment of Families With Children.

    The US ranks in the bottom half of countries in terms of financial benefits for families with children. Over half of the 30 OECD countries pay families with children cash benefits regardless of the income of the family. Some among those countries (e.g. Austria, France and Germany) pay additional benefits if the family is low income or one of the parents is unemployed.

    Myth No. 5: The US Is Very Supportive of Its Workers.

    The US gives no paid leave for working mothers having children. Every single one of the other 30 OECD countries has some form of paid leave. The US ranks dead last in this. Over two-thirds of the countries give some form of paid paternity leave. The US also gives no paid leave for fathers.

    In fact, it is only workers in the US who have no guaranteed days of paid leave at all. Korea is the next lowest to the US and it has a minimum of eight paid annual days of leave. Most of the other 30 countries require a minimum of 20 days of annual paid leave for their workers.

    Myth No. 6: Poor People Have More Chance of Becoming Rich in the US Than Anywhere Else.

    Social mobility (how children move up or down the economic ladder in comparison with their parents) in earnings, wages and education tends to be easier in Australia, Canada and Nordic countries like Denmark, Norway and Finland, than in the US. That means more of the rich stay rich and more of the poor stay poor here in the US.

    Myth No. 7: The US Spends Generously on Public Education.

    In terms of spending for public education, the US is just about average among the 30 countries of the OECD. Educational achievement of US children, however, is seventh worst in the OECD. On public spending for childcare and early education, the US is in the bottom third.

    Myth No. 8: The US Government Is Redistributing Income From the Rich to the Poor.

    There is little redistribution of income by government in the US in part because spending on social benefits like unemployment and family benefits is so low. Of the 30 countries in the OECD, only in Korea is the impact of governmental spending lower.

    Myth No. 9: The US Generously Gives Foreign Aid to Countries Across the World.

    The US gives the smallest percentage of aid of any of the developed countries in the OECD. In 2007, the US was tied for last with Greece. In 2008, we were tied for last with Japan.

    Despite the opinions of right-wing folks, the facts say the US is not on the path toward socialism.

    But if socialism means the US would go down the path of being more generous with our babies, our children, our working families, our pregnant mothers and our sisters and brothers across the world, I think we could all appreciate it.

  • 97 phantomlord // Apr 15, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    Myth 1: The rich ARE getting richer… and the poor ARE getting richer. How many poor people have air conditioning, cable tv, personal computers, etc today? How many did in 1980? 1960? 1940?

    What is happening, the middle class lifestyle is being diminished as they have to support the welfare class of society that lives an equivalent lifestyle without having to put in any of the effort of taking responsibility for themselves. Tax 100% of the wealth (not just the income) of the richest people in America and we still can’t dent our debts. It’s time to stop blaming the rich (and I’ve been unemployed for 3.5 years and take care of a disabled parent, so don’t think I’m loaded).

    Myth 2: The US counts ALL deaths in its infant mortality rates, other countries don’t. You’re comparing apples to oranges, but then again, you’re a self proclaimed enemy of freedom.

    Myth 3: Poverty will never end in the US because poverty is DEFINED as a percentile of the population in terms of income. That is, roughly 20% of the population will ALWAYS be “poor” even if they’ve got gold plated sinks and limo service.

    Myth 4: The US spends WAY TOO much money on cash assistance for families with children and it causes a perpetual dependence upon welfare/wealth redistribution. There’s no motivation for people to take care of themselves if they can enslave others and force others to provide for them.

    Myth 5: Maybe you haven’t heard, but the US isn’t set up to redistribute wealth. Mothers are more than capable of looking for a job that will provide the demands they want. If they can’t find it, it isn’t up to everyone else to mother them.

    Myth 6: Poor people ARE more likely to end up middle class or higher in the US than anywhere else. However, our system of government largess disincentivizes doing so.

    Myth 7: The US spends more per capita than any other nation on education… and after decades of massively increasing education spending, test scores have remained flat. In fact, graduates of today seem to be less knowledgeable and prepared than those of just a generation or two ago. Show me one study where increased spending actually benefited the children’s education.

    Myth 8: The US government is redistributing money from the rich to the poor and the middle class to the poor. It is also redistributing money from the middle class to the rich. This provides further disincentive to try to improve your station in life if you are poor. The US shouldn’t redistribute money AT ALL.

    Myth 9: The US gives more real dollars than any other nation on earth. But when your GDP far exceeds every other nation on earth, it’s easy to play games with statistics.

    I probably shouldn’t have bothered replying… more likely than not, you’re just another uninformed copy and paste troll than someone that actually wants to discuss things honestly…

  • 98 Paschal Arpaia // Jun 10, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    Greetings,

    I have questions about The Tea Party in that Congressional district 29 does not have a representative in congress; therefore we remain without representation. There is no one from your movement out taking up a collection to get a representative elected! This is an opportunity The Tea Party has to make a REAL statement about “NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!” There should be people on the streets. In this you are missing out on the most important points of our founding fathers as our Founding Fathers tossed THE TEA into the Boston Harbor …in retaliation to tyranny.

    I am corresponding to Senator McCain about a hypothesis concerning our the government regarding “encoding” when I noticed keywords being displayed in two stories covered in tandem the night the heath-care bill was being passed specifically documented in writing via correspondence I had with Fox News where they thought I was one of their news anchors working on their day off and thanked me after I brought this to their attention. My hypothesis is buttressed in that a Democrat accused Senator Pat Buchanan of trying to encode something; in this I know it exists or else the accusation would not have been made….

    I ran this by a few people …including an older friend of mine; this being; two time academy award wining film journalist MIKE HOOVER…

    Yes it seems as if we may have a silent revolution on our hands and in this, I do not want to misrepresent Senator McCain; as I feel that the only way to win this battle is if “We the People” have “the constitution” to stand up to tyranny again; AND ONE must realize we need a representative of integrity; either the esteemed Senator, or …former Secretary of State and 4 Star General Colon Powel; as he resigned from his position of US Secretary of State when he knew found out that intelligence “miss informed” him before he made his address to the UN; because he knew from his combat experience in Vietnam that “intelligence” could have planted the evidence of WMD in IRAQ; in this he saved his political career; maybe he will come back to politics.

    In regards to Senator McCain; he isn’t what management’s mangmt is trying to make him look like in Arizona “AS SEEN ON TV!!!;” I have talked to numerous sources including a Mexican American Police Lieutenant who was a tunnel rat in Vietnam who knows the “donkey trail” in Arizona like the back of his hand; where we discussed that Sheriff Joe Arpaio, his wife; family, extended family and friends would be subject to search yet he has no objections; as he realizes this is a national emergency that is being bluntly ignored where the supposed “refugees” are flooding into this country when in reality they are a mix of drug dealers; the drug dealers taking advantage of easy pass. This is about votes, and our Commander in Chief is willing to put the lives of every American citizen and illegal alien in a bracken war zone because his team doesn’t care about life; they care about maintaining their power base in 2012 where once the give “illegal aliens” free healthcare they of course will vote for the power structure that gave it to them; his; and that will include everywhere that is designated US soil; and that isn’t just the “Mexican refugees.” AS SEEN ON TV!!!” it includes outsourced jobs; oilrigs; ships; embassies; military bases; boats docked on every where that are registered with the correct paperwork where one can literally go country to country within a few steps; furthermore this may include internet “clouds” where American jobs are being outsourced to other countries. And as Congress has already shown US and our commander in Chief has stated; they say truth is relative; making what lies in the truth easy to Hyde.

    National healthcare would be a great accomplishment indeed and I believe it possible have this however this isn’t the way to pay for it. The business model has been set up such that those on Medicare shall PAY the bill after having been calculated out with “mathematical certainty;” according to the US national census; “mathematical certainty;” a quote from another man who was overwhelmingly elected and presented his healthcare plan to “save the economy;” and that would be another manager; Hitler outlined in his solution Mein Kampf.

    Furthermore if my hypothesis exists; this county has to pull itself together using our Founding Fathers form of Democracy; or I greatly fear… the United States of America which has been falling will continue to do so as the Roman Empire did; expedited by the rate of the ever increasing technology…though I shall not abandon ship; as others I know have already done; I am American…this is OUR country; OUR Republic and we cannot let it die…as Democracy fell in its place birth; Athens.

    In light of the aforementioned information this concerns support for Senator McCain’s re-election to the Senate and quite possibly who we need to have in place as our next commander in chief. Captain John McCain’s actions by suffering for “The Flag of Our Fathers” in Vietnam and his willingness NOT to quit after loosing the Presidential Election proves he is a man of integrity and ONE that shall not give in. Therefore before ONE believes what they hear “AS SEEN ON TV!!!”
    Realize this:

    Senator John McCain is 6 years younger then ROCK SOLID Marine Sergeant Clint Eastwood Ret; who happens to be a personal friend of MIKE HOOVER’s and also have been another politician.

    Please advise me of your stance.

    Thank you,
    Paschal Arpaia

    HM: (585) 421 – 0864

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